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New Rochelle Commissioner Turns Blind-Eye to "Gangster Mentality" in Police Department's High-Stakes Fantasy Football

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New Rochelle Commissioner Turns Blind-Eye to "Gangster Mentality" in Police Department's High-Stakes Fantasy Football

February 18, 2010 - 16:15
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40 teams2010.jpgDozens of current and former New Rochelle police officers, primarily from the New Rochelle Police Department's Police And Community Together Unit (P.A.C.T.) have for the past 12 years paid tens of thousands of dollars into a high-stakes fantasy football league with team names, team web sites and helmet decals that glorify a brutish, hard-drinking, gangster mentality among officers within the unit.

[NOTE: A significant update to this story was published the week after this first story ran: City of New Rochelle Has "No Comment" on XXX-Rated P.F.F.L. Web Site Published by Current and Former NRPD Officers. Be sure to read both this story and that one which provides new details about the graphic pornography found throughout the web site]

Teams owned by New Rochelle police officers, including many high ranking officers, reference organized crime, vigilantism, police brutality, alcohol abuse, and a hostile misogynistic attitude towards women in a manner which raises serious questions about the fitness for duty of some NRPD officers and, more broadly, the leadership of New Rochelle Police Commissioner Patrick Carroll who has permitted the group to operate on his watch for over a decade.

Participating officers have owned teams with names which include Midnight Mutha F*s, Kill 'em All, The Hitmen, Bad Boyz, Goodfellas, New Jack City, Tuxedo Mafia, The Enforcers, Jack Daniels Boys, Da Drunks and Tits 'N' Ass. Images and helmet decals include one riddled with bullet holes, a woman in a skimpy red bikini, a whiskey label logo, an animation of beer bottles bouncing into a crate, a large-breasted woman in a white bikini, a mafia shooting scene, and a nude, heavily-tattooed woman standing naked, leaning back while holding a massive chainsaw between her legs pointing outwards to suggest a penis. References to male testes are also popular; teams include Harley's Balls, Fireballs, Balzy Bulls and Ball Breakers. One team -- Perri's Not Gay Ghosts - is vaguely homophobic (the team helmet is pink). Two teams appear to be mocking the police profession - The Hemmorroids and Get the Donuts.

P.A.C.T. Fantasy Football League (current site)
P.A.C.T. Fantasy Football League (original site)

[Editor's note: New Rochelle Police Block Public Access to Controversial Fantasy Football Web Site]

PFFL original 16.jpgAccording to the league web site, the PFFL was founded with 16 teams in 1998 by police officers from the New Rochelle Police Department and has now expanded to 40 teams in 4 conferences. Each conference has its own on-line website. All teams play a conference schedule with playoff games until two teams are left to play in the "PFFL Super Bowl" with the winner receiving "a engraved trophy and $$$". Teams that do not make the playoffs play in the "Toilet Bowl" a single elimination tournament. Teams have their own web page which includes a helmet with customized decal, an image selected by the team owner to "represent" the owner and his team (there are no women owners) and the team's won-loss record. In the recently ended 2009 season, team owners paid $260 to join the league plus additional fees to trade players. Proceeds were used to pay out over $10,000 in prize money and host a Super Bowl party on February 7, 2010.

Most of the officers involved in the league over the past 12 years are current or former members of P.A.C.T. or the Police and Community Together Unit which includes all NRPD Youth Officers, Beat Officers, and Housing Officers and is tasked, ironically, with NRPD Community Relations. The content of the web site appears to directly contravene a primary mission of the P.A.C.T. Unit: to present a positive, professional image of the police department within the New Rochelle community. The New Rochelle Police Department, the City of New Rochelle and the City School District of New Rochelle all employ current and former members of the P.A.C.T. Unit.

P.A.C.T. Youth Officers handle youth related investigations including the New Rochelle D.A.R.E. program, part of a national effort to keep kids away from involvement with drugs, gangs, and violence. P.A.C.T. Beat Officers and P.A.C.T. Housing Officers have as their main function to interact with members of the community, attending community association meetings, and organizing community functions involving the police department and the community. Overall, the P.A.C.T. Unit is responsible for maintaining and promoting community relations with the public which includes meetings with community leaders, school board officials, local elected representatives, Chamber of Commerce, and neighborhood associations.

nrpatchonwebsite.jpgThe PFFL web site explicitly identifies the league with the P.A.C.T. Unit and the entire New Rochelle Police Department. The home page includes an image of the official NRPD patch with the words "New Rochelle Police" clearly visible. The PFFL site links back to the New Rochelle Police Department web site. The league history on the PFFL home page states the league was founded by "Police Officers from the New Rochelle, N.Y. Police Department."

The PFFL, both its intent and its expression on the league web site, appears to violate numerous departmental rules and regulations and the ethics code officers swear to uphold.

The Personal and Professional Conduct section of the New Rochelle Police Department's Rules and Regulations states police officers are required to "conduct themselves at all times, both on and off duty, in such a manner as to reflect most favorably on the Department". Further, police officers "must not engage in conduct which brings the Department into disrepute or reflects discredit upon the officer as a member of the Department". Police officers must "maintain a level of moral conduct in their personal and business affairs, which is in keeping with the highest standards of the law enforcement profession" and precludes police officers from engaging in "any type of activity which expresses prejudice concerning race, sex, religion, politics, national origin, lifestyle or similar personal characteristics."

Based on a 2009 NRPD roster, most teams are owned by active duty police officers including more than a dozen police detectives, eight sergeants and two police lieutenants. Other team owners include police officers who first created teams while on activity duty but have since retired from the force.

worstteams2010.jpgTeam Owners and Team Names - Active Duty Police Officers (as of 4/2009)

  • Rodriquez/Wilson - Midnight Mutha F*s later changed to Kill 'em All
  • Police Officer Ryan Downs - Devils Rejects (from 1996 film about a group of sadistic serial killers, tagline, "Hell doesn't want them. Hell doesn't need them. Hell doesn't love them. This world rejects them."
  • Police Officer Paul D'erasmo - New Jack City (from 1999 file with tagline, "They're a new breed of gangster. The new public enemy. The new family of crime.")
  • Detective Vincent Mirabile - Mirabile's Bad Boyz (from 1991 film "Boyz in the Hood" whose lead character is "torn by his desire to be a success and live up to his father's expectation and the pull of peer pressure to be more involved in the local gang culture").
  • Police Officer Luigi Amico - Tuxedo Mafia, later changed to Excessive Force
  • Police Officer Michael Regina - Domestic Dispute
  • Police Officer Timothy Adrian - Jack Daniels Boys
  • Detective Daniel Benge - Tail Gators
  • Detective Evanngelos Geralis - Ball Breakers, later changed to Evil's Empire
  • Sergeant Kevin Perri - Perri's Not Gay Ghosts
  • Detective Bruce Daniele (retired) - La Maluchia (rough translation is "the naughty one")
  • Detective Andres Fernandez - The Hemmorroids
  • Police Officer Adam Castiglia - Get The Donuts

Team Owners and Team Names - Not on Active Duty Roster (as of 4/2009)

  • Michael Lore - Tits 'n' Ass
  • Sal Oppedisano - Goodfellas (from 1990 film with tagline, "As far back as I can remember, I've always wanted to be a gangster." -- Henry Hill, Brooklyn, N.Y. 1955)
  • Bill Olzewski - The Enforcers (from 1976 film "The Enforcer" with tagline, the 3rd "Dirty Harry" film,, billed as "the 'dirtiest' Harry of them all!"
  • Rob Adams - Da Drunks
  • Anthony Geralis - Harleys Balls
  • Some of the officers involved are well-known to Talk of the Sound.

    Sergeant David Rodriguez

    rod-mugshot.jpgThe precise identity of the "Rodriguez" listed as co-owner of a the "Midnight Mutha F*s" in 2003 and later "Kill em All" is not confirmed; the other co-owner "Wilson" which may be either Detective Jeff Wilson or Sergeant Kyle Wilson. There was a Sergeant David Rodriguez on the force until 2008. The PFFL's "Rodriguez" participated in the league until February 2008 and dropped out prior to the start of the 2008 NFL season which began in September 2008. The 2007 NFL season ended with Super Bowl XLII on February 3rd, 2008. Five days later, on February 8th, 2008, Sergeant Rodriguez was supervising as members of the P.A.C.T. Unit arrested a 35-year old man for threatening the mother of his child, a then-17-year old girl.

    The unidentified girl told CBS 2's Tony Aiello that Rodriguez returned later that night (which would be after the end of Third Tour) around 12 PM, and raped her while her baby slept in a near by crib. After the girl was able to describe a unique feature of the officer's genitals, Sergeant Rodriguez was arrested on March 19th, 2008 and charged with first-degree rape. As part of a plea deal intended to spare the teen victim from having to testify at trial, the rape charge against Rodriguez was dropped. He admitted to having sexual contact with the girl, pleaded guilty to official misconduct, and received a one-year conditional release discharge. Rodriguez had resigned from the New Rochelle Police department the week before sentencing. Rodriguez was married to Darlene Rodriguez (née Pomales), co-anchor of Today in New York on WNBC, at the time of the incident.

    If the Rodriguez/Wilson team refers to Sergeant David Rodriguez, the team name Midnight Mutha F*s takes on a new, more ominous meaning given the specific allegation by the victim -- that around midnight, David Rodriguez sexually assaulted a new mother while her infant child slept in a crib just a few feet away.

    New Rochelle Police Commissioner Patrick Carroll defended Sergeant Rodriguez, claiming he had "a sterling record".

    Detective Bruce Daniele (ret.)

    Detective Bruce Daniele (ret.), currently the head of security for the City School District of New Rochelle, was a founding member of the league and owner of "La Maluchia". While the intended meaning of the term is not stated on the PFFL web site, Malucha in Spanish means "naughty" or "wayward"; "La Maluchia" can be understood to mean "the naughty one".

    Daniele was among three school district employees who the New York State Civil Service Commission determined had been hired without following proper procedures. Daniele, along with former New Rochelle police officer Robert Coyne and New York City police officer Rolf Koehler were the subject of an inaccurate and illicit board resolution passed by the Board of Education in September 2009. Collins Coyne is the owner of Loose Change, another PFFL team.

    The resolution was necessitated by an order from the New York State Civil Service Commission which investigated the hiring of the three former police officers and found the New Rochelle Civil Service Commission and the City School District of New Rochelle had filled the positions improperly. The Chairman of the New Rochelle Civil Service Commission Domenic Procopio has been at the center of a number of irregularities in New Rochelle, including personally accepting tens of thousands of dollars in illicit property tax exemptions including over $2,000 in benefits reserved exclusively for Combat Veterans. Procopio, who never served in the military and who is, according to former director Beverly Silverman "never" in the Civil Service Commission office at City Hall, regularly holds court at Mamma Francesca's Trattoria 414 Pelham Road. His frequent guest, according to numerous sources, is Police Commissioner Patrick Carroll.

    In 2009, the State ordered the scheduling of competitive civil service exams to occur doing the 2009-10 school year with the understanding that Daniele, Coyne and Koehler could keep their high-paying positions with the district until the end of the school year at which time the district would have the option to hired them properly, depending on the outcome of the exams. Civil service examinations for the three positions were scheduled for January 11, 2010 and February 6, 2010 although concerns over irregularities have since been raised about the job description promulgated by the New Rochelle Civil Service Commission.

    The resolution was improper because the criteria described in the board resolution did not comply with the Statutory Criteria for 211 Waivers. The district failed to prepare a detailed recruitment plan for the three positions, failed to undertake extensive recruitment efforts, and failed to demonstrate an urgent need for their services. The vacancies the district sought to fill were not unplanned, unpredictable, or unexpected as required by State law were the appointments being treated as "non-permanent" as they appear to be the final filling of the position. The resolution further stated that the three men were recruited based on their prior service as New Rochelle police officers. Koehler never never served with the New Rochelle Police Department. The school board resolution was later changed, voted on a second time and again approved.

    Detective Jason Buono

    Detective Jason Buono owned"The Hitmen", later changed to "Smashmouth". Detective Buono will be familiar to Talk of the Sound readers. He is the officer sent by Isaac E. Young Middle School Principal Anthony Bongo, Jr. to this reporter's house with a false police report in November 2008 in a crude attempt to suppress a Talk of the Sound story about his routine violation of state law and NYSED police. Bongo's father, Anthony Bongo, Sr. is the owner of PAB Construction, a major contractor for the City of New Rochelle and a close personal friend of New Rochelle Police Commissioner Patrick Carroll. Buono's initial claims about the nature of the complaint, who had made it and what actions he had taken as a result were later all directly contradicted by Buono's own incident report. This reporter later alleged to police officials that Buono was acting as a "messenger boy" for Bongo in an attempt at intimidation, that there had been no "plate lookup" at DMV and that Bongo had simply sent his cousin on an errand in the hopes of quashing the story about his illicit cigar smoking on school grounds. No record of a DMV lookup of this reporter's vehicle by NRPD was ever produced in response.

    Detective Ray Andolina

    Detective Ray Andolina is the youth officer who told the Journal News a security guard at Isaac E. Young Middle School had been cleared of charges of assault an an 8th grade student at the school despite no charges having been filed. In that case, the mother of the child went to the police station on North Avenue on three separate occasions to file a complaint against the guard. Detective Andolina actively and aggressively discouraged the mother from filing her complaint, in direct violation of NRPD Procedures. Having refused to accept the complaint from the mother Detective Andolina told the Journal News that the "charge was dismissed" despite not having taken a complaint form the victim or the mother. In an astonishing display of defiant arrogance, Andolina then blamed the mother in the newspaper, saying she must not have taken the matter seriously because she did not file charges. Andolina also made the false claim that the mother wanted to deal with school officials instead of the police.

    Andolina is the officer who failed to fully investigate the "sexting" incident at Albert Leonard Middle School because, according to Andolina "police did not find anything that would warrant official charges" and saying he could not be expected to "track down every cell phone that received the photo". In that case, Donna Henry, a security guard at Albert Leonard Middle School obtained the nude photo and transmitted the photo to two other school district employees. The nude photo of a child was then widely disseminated among public employees including numerous school district employees at Isaac E. Young Middle School and New Rochelle High School. Andolina did not seek to track down any phones that might have received the nude image or even determine whether nude images of a child had been transmitted using the phone he took into evidence. The phone was later returned to its owner and evidence in the case destroyed under the direction of the supervising sergeant.

    Tits 'N' Ass' Team and the Nude Woman with the Chainsaw Penis

    chainsaw.jpgThe single most disturbing team and team web site in the PFFL is Michael Lore's team Tits 'N' Ass which displays an image of a nude woman holding a large chainsaw (right). A Google image search for "nude tattoo chainsaw" returned, as the first result, the same photo on Lore's team page. The woman in the photo models, acts and performs under the stage name "Spurna" and she is described as a "goth" porn star on several web sites which we will not link to here. The image on Lore's site were copied from Barely Evil, a goth porn site. They were part of a series of photos taken at the home of David J. Schow a well-known horror writer whose film credits include screenplays for A Nightmare on Elm Street 5: The Dream Child, Leatherface: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre III, and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning. These films and other Schow works are part of a horror sub-genre known as splatterpunk, a term Schow coined, to distinguish his "graphic, often gory, depiction of violence and 'hyperintensive horror with no limits.'"

    Spurna's body of work includes stints as a nude model, actress in pornographic films, and fronting an eponymous all-girl goth rock band. Incongruously, she also appeared in a country music video for Brooks and Dunn's song Hillbilly Deluxe. In April 2009, Spurna's California home was raided by "20 swat officers with machine guns" shortly after she posed nude holding large amounts of marijuana buds on serving trays. She and her housemates were arrested although she claims charged against her were later dismissed.

    "Slasher" movies like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and A Nightmare on Elm Streetoften depict violence that occurs during or after sexual activity. Psychologists have long considered such films as part of a process of mental conditioning which has a desensitizing effect on men. Such films that juxtapose sexual images with explicit violence dull men's emotional reaction to film violence so that men become less disturbed by scenes of extreme violence and degradation directed at women. In turn, this tends to "reduce feelings of concern or empathy for female victims of violence in other settings".

    Possible Violations of New Rochelle Police Department Rules and Regulations

    Fantasy sports leagues are legal so long as no one involved is "taking a cut". In 2006, in Humphrey v. Viacom a federal judge in New Jersey ruled that when an entry fee is paid unconditionally and the prize is for an amount certain and is guaranteed to be won by a participant, a contest does not morph into gambling under the law. Congress later passed the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006, which "broadly prohibits Internet gambling, establishes that fantasy sports leagues are not gambling operations...because all prizes are announced in advance and do not depend on the number of participants and the amount of fees paid by them, the winning outcomes reflect knowledge and skill of participants and are based on accumulated statistical results of the performance of individual athletes, and winning outcomes are not based on the score, point-spread or any performance of a single real-world individual or team."

    BrucePool.jpgMore questionable are the "football boxes" betting that appear to have run for Monday Night Football and the Super Bowl. For the most recent season, payouts were close to $30,000 . In those cases the winning outcomes are based on the score of a a single real-world team which would appear to indicate the web site is reporting on the outcomes of illegal gambling by New Rochelle police officers. Such illegal gambling would represent a clear conflict of interest as the Genovese and Gambino crime families are known to run illegal bookmaking operations in New Rochelle.

    Legal or not, the amounts involved run into the tens of thousands of dollars, if not more, which raises further questions as to whether winners have declared the amounts on their tax returns.

    Under NRPD Rules and Regulations police officers are not allowed to engage in any activity or personal business that would cause them to neglect or be inattentive to their duties", not engage in conversations with other members of the Department for any other purpose than the exchange of information relative to the business of the Department when assigned to duty outside of headquarters, while on patrol, members of the Department will not read or possess books, newspapers, magazines, or other reading materials unless such material is related to the business of the Department and shall not use personal communications devices while on patrol. While the P.A.C.T. Fantasy Football League may be legal, participation in such leagues is known to create work-place issues and companies have begun to ban such leagues and other sports-related wagering such as "March Madness" bracket tournaments.

    A publicly accessible web site such as the P.A.C.T. Fantasy Football League may create a variety of legal issues for the New Rochelle Police Department as it might be considered a form of harassment or intimidation towards the public or members of the department. The web site might also be the basis for claims of sexual harassment or creating a hostile work environment.

    SBJDB08.jpgThe PFFL site has numerous references to alcohol and alcohol abuse. Sworn members of the New Rochelle Police Department are never permitted to "drink alcoholic beverages to the extent that they become intoxicated" because they are generally required to carry their weapon and badge at all times, they may be called into service at any time in emergency situations and their personal behavior reflects on the entire department.

    The nature and intent of the PFFL may mean that police officers who own teams in the league are in violation of Section 2.20 which states that "Members of the Department will not belong to any group or organization whose constitution, regulations, by-laws or intent, however expressed, would prevent the member from carrying out the policies and duties of the Department."

    While many of the police officers involved in the league have chosen benign team names, logos and images for the web site, they are all required to immediately report, to their Commanding Officer, any "delinquency, dereliction of duty, violation of the Rules and Regulations, or any other conduct they observe or have knowledge of, that may adversely affect the good order, efficiency and discipline of the Department." The problem here is that many senior officers are owners of teams in the P.A.C.T. Fantasy Football League including 22 active duty detectives, sergeants and lieutenants.

    kper2.jpgWhile not specifically addressing web sites such as the P.A.C.T. Fantasy Football League, it is a violation of NRPD policy for police officers, without proper authority, to "represent the Department before the media (Print, Radio, or Television) or address any public gatherings or private groups. Officers are not allowed to "wear, use, display or possess a police shield or other similar object" except as authorized by the Police Commissioner. That would appear to apply both to the NRPD patch image on the site as well as the photo of an officer in uniform holding the the P.A.C.T. Fantasy Football League trophy. The photo appears to indicate additional violations: the officer in the photo, Sergeant Kevin Perri, appears to be wearing the uniform coat completely unzipped in violation of policy which requires that the jacket be zippered at least three quarters of the way up. Police officers are not allowed to appear in uniform in any publication or photograph in which they promote, endorse or otherwise advertise any commercial or private enterprise without the permission of the Police Commissioner.

    fu.jpgTransactions among team owners in the P.A.C.T. Fantasy Football League take place on third-party web sites. If department computers are being used to access the Internet or send email the police officer doing so would be violating a number of department Rules and Regulations which prohibits the use of department computers for "personal, recreational, commercial, illegal, unprofessional or other non-work related uses". Anyone trading with teams such as Midnight Mutha F*sor Kill 'em All, to name a few, or viewing the Tits 'N' Ass team web site with its chainsaw-wielding naked woman would likely be violating rules against sending messages that are "derogatory, obscene or otherwise inappropriate or unrelated to Department business" or sending "material which may cause a hostile working environment and/or which is in contravention of the City of New Rochelle’s Harassment in the Workplace policy".

    Some of the teams use copyrighted logos (Jack Daniels, Dunkin' Donuts, NFL, Super Bowl, New York Football Giants, Miami Dolphins, etc.) and so violate NRPD rules against sending or obtaining information that is "inconsistent with the copyright laws of the United States".

    Professional Police Ethics Issues

    Trophy.jpgMore broadly, the entire web site and every officer associated with the PFFL appears to have failed to abide by the "Professional Police Ethics" guidelines distributed to each officer which they are required by their oath to uphold: "I WILL keep my private life unsullied as an example to all...I will be exemplary in obeying the laws of the land and the regulations of my department."

    Private Conduct: The law enforcement officer shall be mindful of his special identification by the public as an upholder of the law. Laxity of conduct or manner in private life, expressing either disrespect for the law or seeking to gain special privilege, cannot but reflect upon the police officer and the police service. The community and the service require that the law enforcement officer lead the life of a decent and honorable man. Following the career of a policeman gives no man special privileges. It does give the satisfaction and pride of following and furthering an unbroken tradition of safeguarding the American republic. The officer who reflects upon this tradition will not degrade it. Rather, he will so conduct his private life that the public will regard him as an example of stability, fidelity, morality and integrity.

    Conduct Toward the Public: The law enforcement officer be mindful of his responsibility to the whole community, shall deal with individuals of the community in a manner calculated to instill respect for its laws and its police service. The law enforcement officer shall conduct his official life in a manner that will inspire confidence and trust.

    Attitude Toward Profession: He shall appreciate the importance and responsibility of his office, and hold police work to be an honorable profession rendering valuable service to his community and his country.

    APPENDIX A

    PFFL History

    From the original league web site:

    Terry Legeret.jpgThe P.A.C.T. Fantasy Football League was formed in 1998 and consisted of 16 teams. The name was taken from the Police And Community Together Unit of the New Rochelle Police Department as 11 of the founding owners were members of the PACT Unit. There were two conferences with 8 teams each. Bill Odell was appointed Commissioner of the National Conference and Neil Reynolds the American Conference. A Super Bowl was held at the end of the season. Bruce Daniele owner of La Maluchia beat Terry Legeret(South Park Cows) in the inaugural game. A quite large trophy was purchased and the winning team and record is inscribed on a plaque and attached to the trophy. A Toilet Bowl (for all teams not making playoffs) was also started. In 1999 the league expanded to 24 teams, 2 Conferences, 3 divisions each, 4 teams per division. Kevin Perri (Po'Perri) defeated Bruce Daniele ( LaMaluchia) in the Super Bowl.. In 2000 the league again expanded, this time to 30 teams. An additional conference was added and Terry Legeret was named Commissioner. A 3 way Super Bowl Game was held with Terry Legeret(South Park Cows) beating Vinny Mirabile(The Cigars) and Jeff Wilson(Buffs Blazers). In 2001 The South Park Cows won their second consectutive Super Bowl beating Tony Colotti(The Throwbacks) and Steve D'Onofrio(The Dawgs). In 2002 John Pastore(The Hangovers) won the Super Bowl beating Evie Geralis(The BallBreakers) and Bob Madden and Jim Sheehys "Blue Fins". In 2003 the league again expanded, this time to 40 teams and an additional conference will be added. The Super Bowl will be returned to it's original format, the two remaining teams

    From the new league web site:

    The P.A.C.T. Fantasy Football league was formed in 1998 with 16 teams. The league consisted of Police Officers from the New Rochelle, N.Y. Police Department. The League has expanded to 4 Conferences and 40 teams. Each conference has its own on-line website. All teams play a conference schedule with playoff games until two teams are left to play in the PFFL Super Bowl with the winner receiving a engraved trophy and $$$. Teams that do not make the playoffs play in the "Toilet Bowl" a single elimination tournament.

    APPENDIX B

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    APPENDIX C

    P.A.C.T. Unit

    baby.jpgThe Police and Community Together Unit (P.A.C.T.) is headed by a Department supervisor (P.A.C.T. Commander) and is comprised of several different units.

    Youth Officers
    Youth Officers handle investigations regarding crimes committed by persons under the age of 16, missing youths, Persons in Need of Supervision(PINS), and other youth related investigations. The Departments Youth Officers administer and teach the D.A.R.E. program within the City.

    Beat Officers
    There are currently 10 beat officers assigned to the P.A.C.T. Unit. These officers are assigned specific beats within the city. Their main function is to interact with members of the community in solving problems related to the community. The Beat Officers also direct their activities towards criminal and quality of life problems on their beats. Beat Officers attend community association meetings, organize community functions involving the police department and the community, develop special projects and interact and assist other units within the Department. Beat officers utilize foot, bicycle,undercover operations and radio car patrol on their beats.

    Housing Officers
    There are currently 2 housing police officers. Their primary area of responsibilities are the Municipal Housing Complexes (Hartley & Bracey Complexes). Their main function is to interact with members of the community in solving problems related to the community. The Housing Officers also direct their activities towards criminal and quality of life . Housing Officers attend community association meetings, organize community functions involving the police department and the community, develop special projects and interact and assist other units within the Department. Housing Officers utilize foot, bicycle,undercover operations and radio car patrol on their beats.

    Community Relations
    The P.A.C.T. Unit is responsible for maintaining and promoting community relations with the public. Meetings with community leaders, school board officials,local elected representatives,Chamber of Commerce, community crime watches and neighborhood associations are attended on a regular basis by members of the unit.

    Problem Oriented Policing
    The P.A.C.T. Unit has developed several Problem Oriented Policing projects, among those,the Combat Auto Theft Project, Bicycle Anti-Theft Program and Combat Auto Theft Sticker Registration Program.

    There are 76 Comments

    Baboo I stated, "Make the PACT officers associated with...." I never specified owners so get your facts straight. I guess this is your “tour” to be the PACT watchdog considering the immediate response. Please continue to do so in that everyone now sees the effort to try and discredit any other opinion which verifies the root of the problem. My comments were to the story and every post supporting this mentality so if it is deleted so be it. I would rather be a Cronie as opposed to being a degenerate.

    Scruples if there are 40 teams as Cox stated then how can they all be PACT officers considering there are only a minimal number of PACT officers ...Get YOUR facts straight Moron!!!! Just because someone is a Team Owner doesn't mean they are Cops!!! Obviously you think that all cops are degenerates....Mr Cox has a personal vendetta against Cops which is blatantly obvious to anyone except for you and the other Cox Cronies!!! Please tell your friend Rob to move out of New Rochelle considering he hates the city so much and 85% of what he writes about is negative. It must be a hoot to live under his roof!!! And notice that I said 'Writes" about and not "reports" because he is NO reporter!!!

    You say that the PFFL site is now password protected but correct me if I am wrong but in order to post any comments on this site you need a username and password. So if you are going to complain about the PFFL site being password protected then maybe you should change your rules around a little.

    Robert Cox's picture

    I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and figure you just do not know much about how web sites work. Let me help you out.

    As of last week, both PFFL Site 1 and PFFL Site 2 were public just like Talk of the Sound.

    Since our story ran last Thursday, PFFL Site 2 was "blocked" by a login feature to effectively make the site "private" in that it can only be viewed by providing a non-public user ID and password. The PFFL Site 1 is still wide open and can be viewed by the public.

    Talk of the Sound was and is a public site. Anyone can read any page on the site without having to login.

    In order to write a blog post or to comment on a blog post, the user must register for an account and then login in prior to adding any new content to the web site.

    These are not the same things.

    Members of the public could never register and start adding comments or other content to the PFFL web sites.

    This is all a sidebar discussion because whether PFFL 2 is "blocked" or not the site has been public since it was first published as has been the case for PFFL 1 -- and still is.

    Regardless, it does not matter whether PFFL 1 or PFFL 2 is public or private or allows registered comments or not. That the site represents the mindset of police officers is disturbing. That they were dumb enough to publish it to the web only shows that some of these officers are both disturbed AND dumb.

    As noted elsewhere, this is a small percentage of the force. For me, the real issue is why did high-ranking officers permit this and where was the Police Commissioner for the last 12 years?

    Any site that can be accessed by the public that has links to the police department and worldwide pornography (some seem on the young side) is , or should be an embarrassment to anyone cop or not . Please correct me if its the wrong site but
    http://legeret.com/pfflPages/SuperBowl-Toilet-MainPage/MAINPAGE.html has links to both the NRPD and porn ( not bad taste girls with chain saws but hardcore stuff ) Associations like this in a public domain serve no one , least of all the proud NRPD who have no connection to this nonsense . It should all have been behind a paywall . Barretta said it - don't do the crime if you can't do the time . Sad day for NRPD .

    As usual Baboo you misrepresent in an effort to deflect the truth. I never said all members of the PFFL are PACT officers nor did I say all were current PACT officers. If you are as close to or maybe one of the participants you would realize PACT is a stepping stone in the NRPD. Most detectives and officers of higher rank served on the PACT unit at some stage in their careers. I may know you because I know many officers and most I would trust my children with. I have worked with the NRPD and while I don't know and never claimed to know who is responsible for what I again remind you that I stated; "the PACT officers associated with..." and I NEVER singled out team owners so if you have a guilty conscience too bad.

    The site is not professional and doesn't respect the oath taken. You can call me a Brainiac, Moron or whatever else your pea brain can muster but when all is said and done you never address anything except personal insults. I hope this feeds your ego and makes yo feel like a real man because I am cowering in a corner waiting to wet my pants in fear. NOT!

    While I believe some of the officers in question deserve disciplinary action the real problem is the brass allowing the picture of officers in uniform, the official patch and a direct link to the official NRPD website. Since you have taken on the position of NRPD spokesman ask commissioner Carroll to publicly sanction the site so that there would be no question as to whether it reflects negatively on the NRPD. While you're at it get City Manager Strome to publicly sanction it then you won't need to password protect the site. Wanna bet what your chances are of having Carroll and Strome sanction the site? It's the longest shot the PFFL ever saw and would pay off much more.

    I challenged anyone and that includes you to defend the picture of a naked porn star with a chainsaw in her crotch as not demeaning to women. In your next post tell us why there is nothing wrong with that picture, tell us how that picture respects women, tell us how that picture reflects positively on anyone let alone the NRPD.

    I can't wait for your answer so all can see who the real MORON is!

    Citijo...I mean "Mrs. Cox", What took you so long to get to the party?
    Fact...Police Officers are human. More so, they are allowed to go to "R" rated movies, strip clubs, bars, casinos, rent porn if they want, use foul language and play fantasy sports...off duty. These cops did nothing wrong and they have my full support. The officers of the NRPD are the "class" of Westchester...hands down. If you or anyone else don't think so, that is a shame. They are cops 24/7, yes, if you need help, one of these human beings will be there to help you off duty or not. These cops, many of whom I know personally, are professional, dedicated to their job, their families and respect the patch they wear, more than the average resident.
    The Problem with this article is your husband Robert. He is not professional reporter and his "stories" are so inaccurate that they are bordering on criminal.
    The cops mentioned specifically (Buono, Andolina, Perri, Daniele) have done far more for the New Rochelle community than Robert will ever accomplish. With the exception of Perri, why do you think Robert singled out the other three? Buono, because he had the audacity to investigate a complaint against Robert. Andolina, because Robert didn't approve of the way he handled past cases with the district and Daniele, because he is the director of security of the school district. It is plain as day...Robert has an axe to grind! If you or any of his "disiples" can't see that, then you are the ones who are burying your heads in the sand. As far as Perri, so his jacket wasn't zipped up according to department regulations...that's the best he could come up with? Then I suppose everytime the cop puts on and takes off his coat he is in violation.
    Robert, you are not the "moral compass" of anyone...well, until you can walk on water.

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    Truth,

    I do not understand why you and others continue to lump ALL New Rochelle cops into the group of officers mentioned in the article. There are over 200 members of the New Rochelle police department. This league consisted of less than 3 dozen current officers of whom about one-third appear to have been the source of the problems with the PFFL web sites.

    There is no doubt that most New Rochelle police officers are reliable, underworking, brave officers and that includes MOST of the officers involved in the PFFL whose only "crime" was to associate themselves with the handful of officers who displayed "questionable judgement". Instead of ranting and raving about Talk of the Sound reporting what these officers did, you might consider directing your censure towards the officers who have brought disrepute onto the department.

    Based on previous comments, I expect the response to be that none of these officers did ANYTHING wrong. If you actually believe that then there appears to be nothing to discuss.

    Since nothing you said has anything to do with my comments I can't figure why you're crying so much . If you approve of XXXrated porn being linked on the same site with the NRPD web site then so be it . You're bringing shame and disgrace to the brave who are proud to put on the uniform every day to help the less fortunate . I have nothing to prove , least of all to you . So , have your little tantrum and we'll just let you burn yourself out like we do with all the other 3 year olds . When you compose yourself and feel like you can sit with the other adults I'll have some milk and cookies for you . Feel better and get a grip , I've said all I'm going to on this matter . Have a nice life .

    1. You just stated that the humor used is not adult it is juvenile "expected from a 12yr old". Yet pornographic material is for 18+ and if your kids (I pray to god you don't have kids for their sake)at the age of 12 were viewing this material would it be ok? Or if you cracked a big story at a Jr high school with 12 yr olds acting this way Im sure you would report that.
    Please make up your mind, is it adults using adult humor that might be viewed by kids? Or adults using kids humor? If the later then it wouldnt matter if the pact officers were interacting with kids because they would be using the same humor which u say is ok for a 12 yr old. So no I don't expect that from 12 yr olds

    2. Betting and gambling is not illegal in the state of new york as long as the house does not receive a cut. So don't talk about sweeps of illegal betting and then put them in the same box as fantasy football. Maybe some of your readers fall for your cup and nut articles, but not working here.

    3. Finally once you used the word allegations and didn't make it "Coxs law". I'll give you the golf clap for that.

    4.I think we both know Starbucks is better Mr.Cox

    5. The only problem I see here is people looking for something that they don't like it. Mr.Cox if I presented a cup to you and said smell this it smells like S**T and will make you throw up. Would you smell it? My point is that if something offends you or you don't approve of it don't engage it.You say they published it for the world to see, that doesn't mean you have to see it.Was it forced upon your virgin eyes? Don't go to the website or whatever it even is. Unless that site popped up on my computer while I was at starbucks enjoying a carmel latte (soy of course) or a chai I don't care. I don't surf the tv channels for informercials then leave it on that channel and say ughhhh look at this crap now I gotta watch this? Mr.Cox if It is offensive to you like I'm sure so much stuff is, then move on, simple and plain. I'm guessing your still stuck in the 1950's era of humor, Please take my wife, no seriously someone take my wife. cackle cackle.

    6. I'm not saying they are luvable lugs either. Ive been helped by them and Ive been hucklebucked by them, but at the end of the day I don't care what they do on their time as long as it is not illegal which you stated in your "EXPOSE" what they are doing is legal. And me personally, I don't do the fantasy football thing so guess what? I don't go to a fantasy football site. You also wont find me googling greco roman wrestling, you know why Mr.Cox? Cause I don't greco roman wrestle.

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    First, your claim that "Betting and gambling is not illegal in the state of new york as long as the house does not receive a cut" is absolutely false.

    You would be correct had you written that fantasy football is NOT illegal but "box" gambling IS illegal. The PFFL paid out over $10,000 during 2009 season. "Bruce" paid out close to $30,000 during the 2009 season. So, the vast majority of the "activity" reported on the web site for the 2009 season was illegal gambling.

    The only "Bruce" mentioned on the web site is retired detective Bruce Daniele, a PPFL founder and the current head of security for the City School District of New Rochelle.

    As for this nonsense that these guys were engaged in private conduct, they were not. There are 2 web sites. One of them is STILL publicly available. They proactively identified the site with the NRPD and themselves as New Rochelle police officers.

    I stand corrected Mr.Cox and I apologize to my fans, readers and followers. Ok box gambling is Illegal and Fantasy football which these officers participated in is legal which u stated in your first article. Ok so if what they did is legal why give a scenario where these officers are doing sweeps of illegal box gambling spots and then placing bets. That's not what you reported in your story and that is not factual. This is why your not a reporter and are limited to this forum because you can get away with these types of comments on here. Lets make it even more hollywood for your fans. These rogue cops headed by of course Det Daniele , Det Andolina Det Bongo and Sgt Rodrigues. They get in a van don masks of their teams and go raid the gambling spots . Then they get in a 2 hour shootout in the streets , probably by the library since the crime is so high there. After two or so hours of shooting the non fantasy playing police show up but since they all shady the powerful syndicate gives a nod that only police recognize and they let them slip away into the night. Wow now I see how you report, it came so easily. I see now what to do , just get a small bit of information and then embellish it to make it interesting, totally disregarding any facts or concerns of how peoples integrity or images may be slandered. This is why you will never be a true reporter and are limited to tweets and blogs because you cant just report the facts. You allow personal feelings to guide your passion for being a movie director takes over. you also as a reporter may wish to not insult your readers intelligence when they comment on your stories like the woman from japan. That is not professional. Paying out is not Illegal as long as the house doesn't take a percent. It would be like me betting you a hundred dollars that you'll never work for a legitimate news corp. After I won and you paid me the goon squad wouldn't come to arrest us because no one took a cut. Unless that white van pull up and those detectives jumped out with less then half zippered coats and took a cut.

    Robert Cox's picture

    Thorton wrote:

    "...so if what they did is legal why give a scenario where these officers are doing sweeps of illegal box gambling spots and then placing bets. That's not what you reported in your story and that is not factual."

    I did raise the issue of the box betting in the story. In the article you will find this passage:

    "More questionable are the "football boxes" betting that appear to have run for Monday Night Football and the Super Bowl. For the most recent season, payouts were close to $30,000 . In those cases the winning outcomes are based on the score of a a single real-world team which would appear to indicate the web site is reporting on the outcomes of illegal gambling by New Rochelle police officers."

    A commenter wrote about the NRPD making sweeps of delis and other local establishments that were offering box bets on football games.

    It seems like a reasonable question to ask whether any of the officers who were involved in these "sweeps" were also betting in "Bruce's" box betting pool.

    More to the point, it highlights one aspect of the problem raised by the web site -- that not only are there New Rochelle police officers engaged in the exact sort of illegal activities for which others in New Rochelle are subject to summonses to appear in court, arrest, prosecution and punishment in the form of fines and/or jail time but they are so confident in thumbing their nose at the law that they are wiling to display the evidence of their illegal conduct on the public Internet.

    It is a good illustration of the arrogance of power on display throughout the web site.

    I give up MR.Cox. Either you forget what you write or their are two Mr.Cox's ( Lawd help us). Do you even know what you typed the first time? Allow me to refresh your memory. And I quote from your first groundbreaking newsflash.

    "Fantasy sports leagues are legal so long as no one involved is "taking a cut". In 2006, in Humphrey v. Viacom a federal judge in New Jersey ruled that when an entry fee is paid unconditionally and the prize is for an amount certain and is guaranteed to be won by a participant, a contest does not morph into gambling under the law. Congress later passed the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006, which "broadly prohibits Internet gambling, establishes that fantasy sports leagues are not gambling operations...because all prizes are announced in advance and do not depend on the number of participants and the amount of fees paid by them, the winning outcomes reflect knowledge and skill of participants and are based on accumulated statistical results of the performance of individual athletes, and winning outcomes are not based on the score, point-spread or any performance of a single real-world individual or team."

    IS IT LEGAL OR NOT? make up your mind. Its like arguing with a 2nd grader whether fuzzy was or wasnt a bear. First you say its legal but you upset about the conduct on an official site and that the article is not about fantasy football. Now you saying it is illegal. So one of you articles is false. Well we all know more then one is false but thats neither here no there. Unless you have some evidence of Bruce Daniele taking a cut please stop saying its illegal.
    Only thing Ive seen illegal here so far is your haircut. You are lucky these guys don't write you a ticket for that.

    Take notes from the Vandalism Article. Short, concise, no opinion , factual and pictures. Not pics from 1971 with some guy wearing a leather coat half way zipped.

    Robert Cox's picture

    It's not that complicated.

    Fantasy football is legal so long as no one takes a cut.

    Box betting is illegal whether or not someone takes a cut because it is betting on the outcome of a game.

    I'll take your word for it, I apologize, I was under the impression that all gambling was legal as long as a "house" did not take a cut.

    Ouch.
    I obviously read your, I mean, Robert's post.
    As far as the site being linked to porn, stop it. One photo, "offensive" to you and posted by a non-cop in the league three quarters of the other owners never had access too. Big deal. You use google right? Porn. What about the "Tweet" sections on THIS site??? Have you read what people "Tweet" that end up on the front page hear on TOTS? Watch! I've seen the "N" word many times, yesterday I saw the word "CUM" obviously referring a sexual act...but that is ok for this site to allow that but not a peep from his almighty!

    Why don't you contact the PBA and request a community meeting...talk to the officers and administration and see if you still feel they are degenerates. Has his holiness ever made such a request? Interact instead of attack. Maybe the Citizen's Police Academy? It is coming up this spring according to the dept website.

    BTW, I like Chocolate chip cookies, no "nuts". But I guess that leaves Robert out.
    Thank's "Mr's Cox"...I'll bring the milk!

    Seriously, reach out to Det. Andolina, Det. Buono, Det. Oppedisano or any of the other PACT Guy or Girls....they'll set it up, you find the concerned citizenship to show up...They do meetings all the time and are very helpful and successful. At least they were in the East End Civic Association and the South Side group. Not willing to try? Are you game? Maybe the Police Commissioner could attend. Let us know if you can set it up.

    Robert Cox's picture

    "As far as the site being linked to porn, stop it. One photo, "offensive" to you and posted by a non-cop in the league three quarters of the other owners never had access too. Big deal"

    So what has been described in the article is OK with you? Does that mean that if there were multiple pornographic photos and they were posted by cops then THAT would not be OK? Which is it?

    In either case, this web site was not created by current and former New Rochelle police officers who publicly identify themselves as such and who display the New Rochelle Police patch on their site, etc.

    This "story" is an utterly ridiculous joke. Cox, you clearly have too much time on your hands over there on Aberfoyle Rd. Some cops play fantasy football, you apparently play fantasy life. Where do you get your facts and how do you vet your information? Clearly, from what I have read, you could care less what you post as long as you get some attention (which I am foolishly doing by responding). Between the politics and micromanagment in New Rochelle the Cops in this city have a hard enough time doing "the job" without you making up a libelous, nonsensical "story" attempting to turn the public against them. You are what the younger generation would call, a hater. You hate the police for who they are, what they do, how much money they make, and for how they bravely don their uniform everyday to protect this city. What do you contribute to New Rochelle other than displaying your utter contempt for the Police and BOE on a cheap website. Where is your bravery? Your manhood? You think a few angry key strokes impresses anyone? I just have one further question, when you look in the mirror, do you see the inadequate, sniveling, twerp that I do when I see the picture next to your comments?

    I stand corrected Mr.Cox and I apologize to my fans, readers and followers. Ok box gambling is Illegal and Fantasy football which these officers participated in is legal which u stated in your first article. Ok so if what they did is legal why give a scenario where these officers are doing sweeps of illegal box gambling spots and then placing bets. That's not what you reported in your story and that is not factual. This is why your not a reporter and are limited to this forum because you can get away with these types of comments on here. Lets make it even more hollywood for your fans. These rogue cops headed by of course Det Daniele , Det Andolina Det Bongo and Sgt Rodrigues. They get in a van don masks of their teams and go raid the gambling spots . Then they get in a 2 hour shootout in the streets , probably by the library since the crime is so high there. After two or so hours of shooting the non fantasy playing police show up but since they all shady the powerful syndicate gives a nod that only police recognize and they let them slip away into the night. Wow now I see how you report, it came so easily. I see now what to do , just get a small bit of information and then embellish it to make it interesting, totally disregarding any facts or concerns of how peoples integrity or images may be slandered. This is why you will never be a true reporter and are limited to tweets and blogs because you cant just report the facts. You allow personal feelings to guide your passion for being a movie director takes over. you also as a reporter may wish to not insult your readers intelligence when they comment on your stories like the woman from japan. That is not professional. Paying out is not Illegal as long as the house doesn't take a percent. It would be like me betting you a hundred dollars that you'll never work for a legitimate news corp. After I won and you paid me the goon squad wouldn't come to arrest us because no one took a cut. Unless that white van pull up and those detectives jumped out with less then half zippered coats and took a cut.

    There are many reasons why you are a "boob" but I will just mention a few since I have a mock fantasy baseball draft that begins in ten minutes. You are a "boob" b/c like Cox you think in terms of black and white. Not the racial black and white, and not the black and white cookie Cox, so again don't get your bib just yet. Life is just not black and white its really a shade of grey. Killing is wrong but what if you kill to save a life? Well grey area. Stealing is wrong, but what if you steal from the rich to feed the hungry? Grey again. And steal from the rich while wearing tights...well thats just plain awesome! So when I used the word fued you could have expanded your simple mind to assume I meant debate or discuss loudly. And fued doesn't always have to mean violence. Case and point: "The Family Fued". A wholesome show even the little Cox boys can watch. Just so we are clear, and I'm no law man but last I checked people were allowed to argue/fued. Just because someone had the cops intervine or respond b/c of loud yelling it doesn't mean violence. Maybe it does in your household, but I would never be so close minded to jump to a conclusion over something I saw on the internet. You and Cox are labeling and slandering New Rochelle's finest over a fantasy football team name or logo. Do we consider the NJ Devils Satan worshipers? Should every cop who owns a Redskins Jersey throw it away for being racially insensitive? A logical person would say hey that cop is not only brave, handsome, and altruistic, but he also has a sense of humor. Yes I said altruistic...not bad for a college dropout eh? But getting back to the point I think Cox was TRYING to make in his 15 page guide to cop morality in the 18th century, is that whatever cops do it should be done behind a blue wall...i mean closed closet door...no not in the closet....private. Now I haven't tried that hard b/c quite frankly I don't care, but I did go on the NRPD website and I didn't see a link for chainsaw porn or even fantasy football. I tried clicking the PACT option, but all I got was what Cox got on prom night...nothing. I even went to my favorite search engine and typed in "new rochelle police fantasy football"...again nothing. So again correct me if I'm wrong but it seems someone would have to have the specific name of the website, and would have to know the league even exisited just to see a few funny looking helmets. Then they would have to click helmets until they see something titillating, at which point they curl up in the fetal position, stick their thumb in their mouth, cry out for a mommy that never really loved them, comfort themselves with a box of Suzy Q's, then write a blog. WHO DOES THIS? Survey says....COX!

    Wicked it is clear that your world has been obscured to the point where everything is grey. There is nothing that is truly right or wrong and everything is viewed through rose colored glasses. Unfortunately in the real world especially in the field of law enforcement there must be a sense of black and white. The law must be applied equally and justice is supposed to be blind. To use Family Feud to deflect the meaning of feud is nothing more then making the exception the rule again smearing grey to cover the truth.

    You continue to use professional sport team names in baseball, hockey and football to attempt to prove some point. The only possible parallel would be a professional team with a naked woman on their helmet or jersey.

    While it may take a few clicks of the mouse on the PFFL site to reveal the offensive material it is truly child's play for today's youths. I sit here picking and pecking with two fingers taking 20 minutes to type a response which a tween would have finished in 2 minutes.

    I won't and haven't defended Cox, he can stand on his own two feet but I do agree that this site should not have public access and reflects negatively on the NRPD and city The ultimate blame must go to the NRPD brass and maybe it's time for the commissioner to move on.

    While this discussion has prompted a heated debate between Cox and Cops there is no reason that this matter has to become personal. Just because Cox is overweight, wears cheap suits, has a bad haircut, and blogs for a living, it doesn't mean it has to sink to that level. Besides its too easy to pick on the weak.

    Scruples, if the NRPD used black and white it would be a dangerous place. You obviously have no concept as to what really goes on in law enforcement world. Fortunately for me I have had "relations" with several female police officers from around the county and I've been told that A) they use discretion all the time. And B) I'm fantastic. Scruples, in my world discretion means grey. A "black and white" guy like yourself would expect a cop to see a moving violation and write that summons automatacally. It doesnt matter if that violator is rushing his pregnant wife to the hospital b/c she's about to pop. You would want the cop to write the ticket, because law is black and white. I could give many more obvious examples but I think and would hope you see this point. No...you need one more, okay. Two people get into a bar fight and when the cop walks in he sees a man punch another man in te face causing a nose bleed, the other punches back and gives his opponent a black eye. Both just committed a crime. What do you do? Lock them both up even thought they don't wanna press charges? Or should the cop chalk it up to nothing more than "mutual combatants" and send them on their drunken way? Both are options, but another grey area where discretion is used. And I disagree that a professional team has to have a pic of a naked girl to be offensive. Maybe to you a naked girl is offensive but maybe to someone else it isn't , but violence is. The logo for the Cleveland Indians is offensive to some, but Janet Jackson's "wardrobe malfuntion" isn't. And while you are right that a tween is more literate than you, are you actually going to believe that a tween is going to even want to find this website? With all the porn out there, is cop fantasy football really high on the mind of an adolescent? And for argument sake, say some 12 year old boy stumbles across this...is it really any more damaging than what he finds under his dad's mattress, or in a National Geographic in the school library? Parents and teachers are role models too, and should also adhere to a high moral standing, so don't just put it on the cops...it starts at home. I use the example of boy b/c I can promise you no underage girl gives a crap about any of this. She's too busy anyways with her older long-haired boyfriend named Chad who drives a Cammaro and says "rad" a lot. Furthermore, if some minor stumbles across anything inappropriate blame the parents for not knowing what their kid is looking at. Block porn sites and it won't matter what some fantasy site is linked to. And I would love for Cox to just be honest for once and put his obvious hatred against the cops aside. Just admit Cox that you were TOLD by someone with intimate knowledge about the site and didn't just happen to stumble upon it. And if you did just stumble upon it, why do you care so much about someone elses fantasy football league, unless of course you were out on a witch hunt?

    What you will NEVER get is that this is not about the fantasy football league no more then any offense to the Washington Redskins being about the NFL. It's about the individual team names and "logos/mascots".

    It's obvious we disagree but as usual I never said there is no grey area, the amount of grey depends on personal circumstances and I have been the beneficiary of grey interpretation. Every situation and example you site is the exception to the rule. How many speeding stops involve a pregnant woman being rushed to the hospital? Some people feel they are above the rules and rules are made to be broken while most people believe rules exist to benefit the majority and that we will agree to disagree on.

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