Well Said Anthony ! We Can all Back THIS Up


The information you are requesting leaves no room for redirection or obfuscation should that information be released to the public. Sad but true , I wouldn't hold your breath while waiting for those answers .

Regarding the statement about the 2 million dollar surplus . Just what are we to imply about that ? Are the residents of Avalon secretly paying the costs of their children's education out of pocket ? If we convert all of the housing in NR to senior housing wouldn't we eliminate all "costs associated with the children's education" ? Why , we could actually get rid of the whole school system and cut our taxes by 70 % (assuming seniors won't have any more school age kids). Every family in New Rochelle is providing a revenue surplus by not having another child . Such a deal !

Isn't it ridiculous ? Besides , the 2 mill dollar surplus fantasy is more than offset by the huge Tax abatement given to these sites , meaning we are actually getting nothing in revenue from the properties ? Approaching a BILLION dollars in development (Avalon 1&2 , Trump , New Roc) and the city is struggling . Revenues basically the same as pre development and this was true before the economic downturn .

Crazy ? Sure, and that's what happens when you selectively choose data to represent a political position . You could state "when the Lofts at New Roc reach their potential, there will be another 100 children enrolled in Trinity School representing a 2 million dollar burden equaling a .6% tax increase from this building alone" . The Capelli group is actively using the schools to attract new tenants to the Lofts . How do you control who moves in ?

The information Mr.Galletta is asking for isn't top secret , nor should it be . Transparency and a willingness to engage the public can only help all involved . That's not to say the public should be making all of the decisions , however , shutting out public opinion and not accepting the chance to address fair criticism suggests an "I know what's best for you " attitude . Considering nobody is right all of the time , these questions are completely in order and deserve to be acknowledged , answered , and explained . Asking city leaders to explain their actions or statements is fundamental to living in a free society and not much to ask for when you think about who's paying the bills . As a stakeholder , what's wrong with asking to take a look at the "books" as it were ? This asks the question - should we be suspect of the data being presented by a city official ?

From an article in Curious Cat called Data Can't Lie comes " If there is a lack of understanding of data then people can manipulate the data (chose the data that supports their claim, use false data, mislead about what the data really represents) to support their “political” end." You can't blame the mayor for wanting to put the best spin on the state of New Rochelle's affairs , but it's a fine line between showing your best side and misleading the taxpayer . So let's see the data requested . If the projects are as successful as we are led to believe ,they will stand on their own merit. If not , there will be more questions . It's that simple . Perhaps if we get to look at the "books" before Lecount and Echo Bay and North Ave begin , criticism will become accolade . We can all get behind that .

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Warren Gross on Mon, 08/10/2009 - 21:02

look we have a situation here that requires little clarification. what it comes down to is whether the citizen wants to continue the status quo or reach out for something better. of course, the latter could be equally disappointing as power does corrupt and people who taste even a bit of it become enamored of their voice, ego and so, the beat goes on.

the question regarding this particularly situation involves a straightforward statement from noam bramson that defies logic. a simple examination of the major occupants of the new housing downtown should suggest that most occupants are transient (especially in Avalon, probably childless for the most part and not amenable for any type of analysis that speaks to permanent occupancy and district growth. but, how would you know? noam's statement on a 2 million dollar contribution is likely more than illogical -- it is reckless and coupled with the school district's prior acceptance of some nonsense that Organisicial sponsoered called a "demographic study", we are even more mystified and, if a taxpayer, insulted by the enormity of sheer disregard and incompetence we face daily.

we all know about abatements by this time, likely corruption in parts of the district or city; what we don't seem to have is a citizenry who literally cry out for change; new administration, new council members, district officials, etc.... it literally is that simple and I would not at all be surprised if occupancy plans change in new roc center or if they remain as is. in fact any surface study of the suitability of the site for a large scale wholesaler or retailer would point this out. why would you come here when you could go to a more comfortable environment such as eastchester.

we remain out of focus and I would urge all critics of the city and its various components to plan and execute a strategy beginning with , Jesus where did I hear this before, "change we can believe in."

You might be aware of the recently passed Cold War Bill that I had the privilege of working on with Amy Paulin, etal. A few days ago, I called the Assessors Office and they hemmed and hawed, claimed they needed more information from the State, etc. and indicated it would not be until 2011 that veterans would see some results of this bill in terms of their tax refunds. I let Amy Paulin know and we shall see if this holds up.

Like Thoreau said, "simplify, simplify" so lets see if we can follow this advice by figuring out how we can be politically active despite party, even philosophic differences. A bad democrat and bad republican look very much the same to me. Lets try something new -- politicians who don't respond directly and truthfully, lets see what we can do to rid them of the "burden" of power.

Noam is no worse than most of his predecessors -- we need someone who can cobble up a strategy for this city that recognizes its unique character and issues. Know anyone? I don't know Bruce Negrin, but hope he thinks about running for office. There have to be others. Character is more important than skill, openness trumps opacity every time.

warren gross

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Political Forec... on Mon, 08/10/2009 - 10:58

The High School is already one of the largest in NY State. At some point it becomes unmanageble. Where will the second High School be built?
I am figuring if any land was available up North it would already occured...
The High School is key, because if the current trend continues it become a real problem for realty values.
There are security guards 50 foot on center protecting those who are teachable from those who aren't. Although it currently is working add in a few hundred more students and it would be a problem.
The System of Houses was created to skirt the population issue. Without some intellegent planning on the part of City Hall with regards to residential development it could all come to roost soon.
Lets remember Bramson himself touted many if not all of these projects as not targeting buyers with school age children. Then contrast that to Cappelli's ads on VOX and in the front of the Trump building saying how great the schools are. The Tax payers will have a huge bill to pay when the school district must add classrooms and the Mayor and City Manager will just say its not us we are only a small taxing authority. Its the ultimate schrug of the shoulders "Wasn't Us". This will compound itself with many forced to sell property becasue the school tax has forced them out. My question is How much room is in the schools for additional students?
Where will new schools get built?
And who's footing the bill?
The answers are- There is very little available classroom space!
The where I have not a clue!
But the who's footing the bill is quite evident!

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